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good morning, welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. it is thursday, august 18, i'm christine romans. new developments this morning in the legal drama surrounding former president donald trump, justice department lawyers today will make their case for keeping secret the probable cause affidavit that was the basis for the warrant for that fbi search at mar-a-lago. and cnn has learned some of trump's allies are urging him to make surveillance video of that search public. the latest now from kaitlan
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collins in washington. >> reporter: good morning, christine. we are now learning that former president trump and his legal team are considering releasing the surveillance footage from those several hours when fbi agents were at mar-a-lago conducting that search of course of his property looking for classified information that they believe he took with him from his time in the white house to when he went to mar-a-lago as he left the day he was inaugurated. there were major questions of course this entire justice department investigation over how this information was handled and what exactly was taken down there and we're now told that despite that day when fbi agents showed up and they asked the trump team on the ground to turn off the surveillance cameras, they did not do so and they are now in control of several hours of footage of them actually being there conducting this search. and we're told that they are now considering releasing it, though there are some inside the former president's orbit weighing whether or not it would be a pro or con to release it, some
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saying that it could potentially energize and boost their base. others arguing that it is not the political ad you think it is to have fbi agents carrying boxes out of the former president's residence. it could potentially reveal the identity of the agents there could no conducting the search. and also today we're waiting to see whether we'll see more information behind the affidavit that was behind the judge signing off on the search warrant, a very unusual step. and this is something trump says he believes should be released, of course it could kcould poten reveal names of witnesses. and the justice department saying that it prefers it not to be released. also in court today, allen weisselberg, he is expected to plead guilty to a long running tax fraud scheme.
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a source tells cnn weisselberg is willing to testify in a possible future trial but he will not enter into a cooperation agreement with new york prosecutors investigating the finances of the trump family real estate company. in atlanta, rudy giuliani spent some six hours before a grand jury, georgia prosecutors have told giuliani that he is a target of their investigation into trump's effort to subvert the 2020 election results. sara murray has more from atlanta. >> we will not talk about this until it is over. it is a grand jury and grand juries as i recall are skrecret. rudy giuliani keeping a tight lip on the it him that just wrapped just days after prosecutors told him he is now a target in the criminal investigation here into efforts to subvert the 2020 election results. giuliani is the closest adviser to donald trump to be named a target in the georgia investigation raising questions about trump's own criminal exposure here. >> all i want to do is this, i
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just want to find 11,780 votes which is one more than we have. >> the investigation is ongoing as a district attorney, i do not have the right to look the other way on any crime that may have happened in my jurisdiction. >> reporter: giuliani's attorney warning if they want to play hard ball, we know how to play hard ball. and saying that prosecutors are delusional if they think that giuliani will discuss his conversations with trump. >> they ask the questions and we'll see. >> reporter: for well over a year, fulton county district attorney fani willis has been running a criminal investigation focused on efforts by trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 election. >> we're going to look at everything until that investigation is complete. >> reporter: she is looking at potential crimes including making false statements, so he police tis of election fraud and conspiracy. giuliani was among the loudest voices spreading falsehoods about the election in georgia. >> the recount in georgia will tell us nothing because these fraudulent ballots will just be
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counted again. >> reporter: investigators have been scrutinizing giuliani's three appearances before georgia lawmakers and other state officials where the former new york mayor spread conspiracies in the wake of the 2020 election. >> you can see them counting the ballots more than once, two, three, four, five times. you would have to be a moron not to realize that that is voter fraud. >> reporter: giuliani's efforts to delay his testimony due to a medical procedure falling flat with the judge. >> this is not the first discussion that i've had to have with the district attorney's office and lawyer or lawyers for someone who has been called to appear before the special purpose grand jury. >> reporter: like giuliani, the 16 trump backers who agreed to serve as fake elk toelectors ar targets. >> the lawsuit has not been decided or even heard. we held this meeting to preserve his rights. >> reporter: this week 11 of them including david shaffer went to court asking a judge to disqualify willis from the
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investigation. we asked rudy giuliani's attorney what he was asked about during his wednesday appearance and what questions he actually answered. his attorney declined to comment saying that he would respect the secrecy of the grand jury process. sara murray, cnn, atlanta. and let's bring in washington correspondent for the atlanta journal constitution. nice to see you, thank you for joining us. six hours, full day before a grand jury for giuliani wednesday. he left without speaking to reporters. what do we know about what happened and do you think because he is a target that changes how he might have answered some of the questions? >> if anything, i think by being a target, not just a witness, probably the grand jury probably got an even more cautious giuliani even less willing to
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answer their questions and quite frankly, even before he became -- even before it was known that he was a target of the investigation, he had basically floated or kind of indicated he was thnot going to answer a lot of questions, he would claim attorney/client privilege. again we don't know what happened behind closed doors. he and his attorneys said that they weren't going to talk about what was said or what was asked of them by the grand jury and its investigators, but the indications are that programs he found ways to not answer the questions. >> we heard yesterday that the former vice president mike pence says that he would give due consideration is what he said if he was invited to testify before the january 6 committee.
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do do you think he's serious, what would pence gain by of it something. >> it is interesting because the truth of the matter is that the january 6 committees has made it clear they want to hear from vice president pence. and he could willingly reach out to the committee like others have. pence has indicated that he wants the committee to you will about the trigger. it looks like the committee has been hesitant to like subpoena him and make it a formal request because, you know, they are sympathetic to him, they don't want to try to force him to testify because again, they believe that he was one of the victims of january 6. so i think the committee doesn't want to go through the formal process of subpoenaing him to
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compel testimony, but they want him to talk and he hasn't. so i don't know what to make of his comments because he has not reached out to the committee even though he is well aware the committee wants to hear from him. i don't know what he would gain by talking to them other than, you know, i think that it would further kind of put him in the sphere of people who say we need to move on from president trump, what happened on january 6 was not good for america. i don't think that he could testify to the january 6 committee and that not become a theme to his comments no matter what he said. so i think that it is up to former vice president pence to decide whether he wants to put himself out there further as it kind of an taking miss test figure toward president trump. because i think sometimes he waiverss oig on that.
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sometimes he challenges president trump and then other times he makes statements that indicate that he wants to get on the good side of former president trump. >> yeah. you know, it is so interesting. there is this big kind of conversation ongoing about the surveillance footage of the search at mar-a-lago and some of trump's supporters are urging him to release, right, maybe that would make a fantastic ad or viral video of law enforcement at mar-a-lago. but hard to know how it would play. it also shows a former president with a search warrant being executed against him for having allegedly all of these very important sensitive documents just lying around mar-a-lago. i'm not sure -- kaitlan collins sort of mentioned it is unclear how that would play for release that footage for the former president. >> right. and it is unclear how that would play given all the different kind of reasons trufrnl and his allies have said those documents were at mar-a-lago to begin with. and so we've seen a lot of
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different stories, excuses, theories about why president trump felt those documents were his to possess. and we've also seen them float conspiracy theories or rumors about how those documents were treated. and how those investigators who searched mar-a-lago acted at that time. so when you put out the video evidence, it could confirm or it could refute some of things we've heard from former president trump and his allies. it looks like, you know, there are investigators that are calmly searching for things and not tearing through mar-a-lago the way some trump allies have kind of described the search, you know, you've heard people use the word raid and made it seem like they confiscated his passports and things like that, well, what if the video shows something a lot different, something more methodical, something more organized. and again as you said shows
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investigators walking out with boxes of top secret documents, that might not look as good. so there is potential risk of releasing the footage. >> also could be a reminder that the president is in a heap of legal trouble on multiple fronts, right? it could paint him in a light on the wrong side of law enforcement. who knows how they would do that. we'll see. tia mitchell, thank you. and just ahead, joe biden and mike pence standing up for something that donald trump will not, the fbi. plus florida's ron desantis with a new target, woke investing. and a shakeup at the cdc, new priorities driven by the pandemic. what do you want to leave behind? that's your why. it's your purpose, and we will work with yoyou every step of the way to achieve it. ♪ my name is austin james.
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>> the republican party is the party of law and order. our party stands with the men and women who serve on the thin blue line at the federal and state and local level. and these attacks on the fbi must stop. calls to defund the fbi are just as wrong as calls to defund the police. >> president biden also reject the notion of defunding the fbi or any other law enforcement agency. here is chief of staff ron klain on cnn last night. >> let's be clear, joe biden does not support tee fdefunding fbi. in fact we proposed funding it to the tune of $11 billion in his budget. >> he said the calls were reckless and irresponsible. ron desantis adding another culture war, taking aim at wall street banks and big tech companies and what he calls woke ceos.
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steve contorno is joining us live. what is this all about, steve? >> reporter: governor desantis believes there are too many asset managers and wall street ceos who have a political agenda and they are using the of their i -- power of their investing and shareholder voting to push causes over their fiscal responsibilities. governor desantis saying we won't do this in florida with our pension funds and under a new policy that we got a first peek at yesterday, he makes it clear that florida cannot consider any of those factors and only can consider the risk and return on investment when investing florida's pension funds. now, this is what we expect to be the opening salvo in governor desantis' next front in his battle against, quote, woke
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now, these new rules will be voted on next week by the state pension board and if governor desantis is reelected, we expect this to be a big part of his legislative agenda in 2023. >> really interesting. thanks, steve. a florida court says a pregnant teen is into the mature enough for an abortion. and chinese scientists fighting drought by making it rain. with best western rewards you get rewarded when you stay on the road and on the go. find your rewards so you can reconnect, disconnect, hold on ght and let go! ay two nights and get a free night. book nowt bestwestern.com. i would say that to me an important aspect is too... meta portal with smart sound.
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ukraine is responsible for three explosions in the russian annex ed crimea region accordin to a report shared with are not. the strike killed one and severely damaged the facility and destroyed seven russian military planes. explosions were also reported at an ammo depot and an airfield. david meckckenzie is joining us live. is this a sign that the counteroffensive is ramping up? >> reporter: i think it is definitely a sign that ukraine is able to strike or have sabotage efforts far beyond the front lines of the conflict which is significant both from the point of view of the military campaign and psychologically, that ukrainian official telling cnn that an internal report says that they are responsible for those blasts which sent shockwaves through crimea and many people fleeing that region far beyond the front
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lines. whether it will have an impact on the overall battles going on remains to be seen. in the northeast, there was a significant strike by russian forces on a residential building say ukrainian officials. they say seven people were killed, civilians were killed in that strike. and the russians are saying that they hit an area in the same area that on the same night that they say were militants, or at least foreign firtdghters as th put it, killed up to 50 of them. it is a grinding campaign with multiple strikes on ukrainian positions. but there is an interesting move on the diplomatic front. the u.n. secretary-general antonio guterres is in the country and later today he'll be meeting with both the president of turkey erd wanerdogan and a
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meeting with president zelenskyy. and on the table is a discussion of the grain exports, it has been a either about of hope in the grinding conflict because ukraine is now leaving black seaports to get out to much needed areas including east africa. the question is, whether they be discussing other issues in those meetings, we'll find out later today. what everyone wants to know is whether there will be a group from the atomic energy agency able to visit that massive nuclear plant to the south of where i'm standing to try to get some kind of indication of securing safety there. that has been a big worry in the last few weeks and no real resolution there. we'll see if the u.n. secretary-general discusses that directly later today. >> david, thank you so much for that. courts in three states now just made key rulings on abortion. plus no gravity but plenty of anxiety as a spacewalk is suddenly stopped.
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courts in three states are making significant moves on abortion in the wake of the legal turbulence caused by the supreme court overturning roe v. wade. south carolina temporarily blocking enforcement of the six week ban. and in california, abortions after 20 weeks except in cases
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of medical emergency. and in florida, a judge denied a 16-year-old girl's request for an abortion out the concept of her legal guardian. the judge denied the girl a waiver finding that she had not established that she was sufficiently mature to decide whether to terminate her pregnancy. joining me to discuss is carolyn kitschner. what struck me, the june found she wasn't mature enough to make a decision on abortion. how could she be mature enough to have a baby and continue on as a parent? this is a very unique situation, but this is a young woman who is p parentless, doesn't have a job, the father of the baby can't support her financially. she waited 10 weeks to get permission for this and at least now is in legal turmoil over it. >> slightly. first thing to know is that these parental consent laws are not new.
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36 states have some kind of parental consent for minors. what is striking about this one is the way that it is written is not sufficiently mature enough, which of course lead to the question that you raised, how can you be sufficiently mature, you know, to raise a child if you are not sufficiently mature to have an abortion. so i think that that has really ignited something in a lot of people who just don't understand, you know, how that could be the case. >> yeah, it is just a tragic story all around. you just got back from tennessee where abortions are ending next week. tell us about your reporting there. how are women there preparing for life without this option? >> what i saw in that clinic yesterday ways realls really desperation. i met a woman from louisiana, a woman from mississippi, they were all rushing to get in
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before the deadline, before next week when abortion will no longer be legal there. and one thing that was really striking is one of these patients, she came out in tears because she was -- they told her that she was one day beyond the six week mark because tennessee like several other states already has a restrictive six week ban in place. so she wasn't going to be able to get her abortion that day and she was looking at that abortion map and thinking, oh, my god, where do i go next. >> wow. and we're now six weeks past the dobbs decision. tell us what you have learned about the new reality for so many women across america. you talk about looking at a man and trying to figure out how far am i going to have to go. >> i think what is really striking to me is just how fast everything is changing. you know, you had these series of court cases, laws were blocked, unblocked, but now
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we're really very swiftly moving toward these vast, vast abortion deserts. right now it is 13 states where abortion is banned or mostly banned. and you have people like the women that i met from mississippi, from louisiana, who are looking at 10 hour drives and just thinking to themselves there is no way. and i think one thing that really struck me is that, you know, these women are saying, well, you know, i guess i nights a we have the baby. they can't get the money together, they are not able to pay for a hotel and they are thinking, well, i guess he'll just go through with it. >> and that is of course exactly what abortion opponents wanted, right? they wanted to put up those barriers so that to protect -- they would say the life of the child. so many of the states though have the least amount of support for women and children through
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education and other resources, that is one of the sad ironies, there is not really that safety net once you -- once you -- you know, the life is created, the life -- the baby is born, where is the -- where is the government response to help them. that is a piece of this still missing. carolyn, thank you so much. nice to see you. walmart and cvs and walgreen's ordered to pay damages to two ohio counties. they must pay a combined $650 million in the next 15 years, $306 million going to lake county, $344 million going to trumbull county, all three chains were found liable for their role in the opoid epidemic. potential to our devastating droughts, seeding the clouds to make it rain. and how tiktok is fueling misinformation ahead of the midterm elections.
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drastic changes are coming to the cdc, director dr. walensky acknowledged ongoing criticism that the agency fell short responding to the coronavirus pandemic. she now says that the cdc will overhaul its operations to remake the culture and restore public trust. the changes include internal staffing moves and steps to speed up data releases after a one month external review of the agency, key recommendations include sharing scientific findings faster, making policy easier to understand and prioritizing public health communications. fast-growing social media el paso offensive meade platform t become incubation of false information. researchers saying just ahead of the midterm elections tiktok's algorithm is amplifying inaccurate claims about voter
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fraud the way it previously fueled viral dance fads. let's bring in misinformation reporter tiffany chu. you've reported on the spread of misinformation on tiktok from around the globe and now it is here in the u.s. what are you seeing? >> so there is all sorts of misinformation on tiktok like any other social platform. there is misinformation about covid-19, about uvalde, but ag gender sexuality before up hashtags like stop the steal with three ls, rigged election with a 1 instead of an i. tiktok disables the hashtags but they got hundreds of thousands of views. there are conspiracy theories about the january 6 hearings, about hugh there is an army of irs agents who will kill middle class taxpayers, but how monkeypox is deployed to limit
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in-person voting. i mean, none of this is true. but if you are a young person, you are just developing your political identity, you are a fan of an influencer who is pushing ideology who sponsors they are not forced to disclose, you haven't been trained to fact check, how would you know any better. >> and people are spending so much time on tiktok. i have three little kids and my middle son was showing me some tiktok videos about kamala harris that were completely untrue and manipulated just the other day and that was -- that kind of stuff, i mean, i don't understand yes even gowhy he ev got it or it came into his feed, but it was alarming. how does tiktok address the misinformation problem? because these are videos, right? so it is not like texts. it is a different -- the moderating must be different here. >> it is difficult. the researchers i've talked to have said that tiktok is trying to address the problem.
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they have removed hundreds of thousands of problematic election videos after 2020, they try to block the fake content, they partnered with several fact checking organizations. they shutting down problematic search terms. they are directing users to election information hubs. problem is that it is not enough. filters are too easy to get around. just like facebook and twitter, what these researchers are saying is that there is too much pressure on human moderators, they are being forced to watch long hours, they are watching multiple video he it is same time and sometimes in languages that they don't understand. they are not as open about the recommendation algorithm and other inner workings of the country as they probably could be to help research kind of figure out ways to better tamp down on misinformation. >> social media is a minefield, the balance of free speech and
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moderating troublesome or incorrect information. but tiktok is new. in 2018, 2020, this is going to be the first time i think in the u.s. this has been a factor in an election. >> yeah, i mean tiktok to this day likes to call itself and entertainment platform. it was known for attracting young people who went on to look at dance videos that went viral. there was definitely political content on the platform in 2020, but increasingly as the audience broadens and ages, there are people who are realizing that there is definitely an audience there who want to talk about elections, who want to talk about voting. but even now tiktok is not a great place for an actual politician for example. bay teto o'rourke has somethinge 300,000 voters, but an election influencer has 7 million views.
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so they are not required -- they are not forced to disclose whether or not they are being paid. it is difficult to prove that they are. >> and the supervideos are on s and addictive. the amount of time people spend on it is mind boggling. tiffany, nice to see you. a wardrobe malfunction cut short nasa's most recent space endeavor, two khazzahood a prob with a battery pack and had to urgently return to the iss air lock. >> two cosmonauts before the decision was made to terminate the spacewalk early had completed the installation of cameras. >> both were wearing russian-made spacesuits. we're now just hours away from a high stakes hearing on
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chinese scientists are using what could be the ultimate silver bullet to try to solve a dangerous drought. they are seeding the clouds to make it rain. cnn's kristie lu stout is live in hong kong. how does cloud seeding work? >> reporter: it is really interesting. you have officials who are resorting to cloud seeding to literally make it rain. and this desperate attempt to
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mitigate the effects of this huge heatwave that is baking china right now. and it involves shooting pellets of these silver iodide particles into the clouds to basically induce rainfall. and this is something that china has been doing for years now, it has done it since the 1940s and also it did it to clear the air above the olympic games back in 2008. and chinese officials are also using other member ofasures to the effects of the heatwave. factories have been suspended for a week in one city and in a province and it also involves factories being run by apple, foxconn and intel. for other two months china has been battling record-breaking heatwave and issued this red alert warning to over 138 cities and counties and that is basically warning that temperatures will soar as high as 104 degrees farenheit.
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it was just yesterday when chinese authorities issued this warning, they say that this will be just the worst heatwave on record since the 1960s. they said that the heatwave this time is prolonged, wide in scope and strong in extremity, taken all signs together the heatwave in china will continue and its intensity will increase. i do want to add that china has warned that it is particularly vulnerable, its temperatures are rising faster compared to the rest of the world. in this earlier statement issued by the vice director of the national climate center, he said in the future increase in regional temperatures in china will be significantly higher than the world. and so china in particular is feeling right now the devastating effects of climate change. need we be reminded that it was china who cut off climate talks with the united states in protest of the u.s. house speaker nancy pelosi's controversial trip to taiwan a few weeks ago. >> certainly human factors and
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also we'll have to watch for power cuts and factory disruptions because of the heat. so something that is felt all around the world. kristie lu stout, thank you. nice to see you. let's get a check on cnn business. looking at markets around the world, asian shares closed lower. europe has opened flat to higher. and on wall street, stock index futures this morning also leaning a little higher here. retail spending held steady in july, but it wasn't quite enough to boost stocks. all three major averages falling, the dow snapped its five day winning streak minutes from the fed july meeting show more interest rates to tame inflation. mighty american consumer is holding up in the face of months of inflation. july's retail sales was flat, but behind that headline, evidence the consumer is using savings from lower gas prices to keep spending and making smart decisions. this economist says americans are still spending their
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paychecks and may be holding always bait for more cars to come to the dealer lots. and if you are looking for recession, you boyou won't find here. consumers are shifting toward necessities but still spending. and overnight, gas prices fell again another penny to $3.93 a gallon, that is 64, 65 days in a row now of falling gas prices. some encouraging news for the little league baseball player who fell out of his bunk bed at the world series. coy wire has more. how is he? >> 12-year-old easton oliverson is looking pretty good. he was days away of realizing his dream of playing in the little league world series when he fell out of his bunk bed. easton's family saying if he didn't have brine ain surgery r away, keyhe could died. and they posted had he is no longer sedated, asking for water, waving to his parents mouthing the words i love you.
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teammates wearing team easton wrist bands. and also getting love from his favorite player mookie betts. here he is. >> hey easton, this is mookie betts. just want you to know that we're praying for you, thinking of you and i hope to see you soon, my man. >> officials say they didn't have safety rails on the bunk beds. his quad play first game tomorrow, first team from utah to ever make the little league world series. and wnba playoffs tipping off last night starting with the chicago sky seeing their six point lead slip away late to seven seed new york thanks to their super star muscling her way leading the way with a game high 22. and the team rallies around here. look at this no-lock pass to howard, nasty. don't look now, but liberty go on a 13 point run to end the game. liberty win their first playoff
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game since 2015, 98-91. game two of the best of three series is saturday in chicago. >> why not us. everyone counted us out, everyone didn't think that we'd make it to the playoffs. i think we had a 20% chance and we used that as fuel to the fire. why not us. we believe in ourselves. >> top seized vegas facing eight seed phoenix making the playoffs without brittney griner still detained in a russian prison. it was close for three quarters, but the aces were dealing. kelsey with a game high 22. and new vegas coach becky hammond following an eight year run in the nba as a spurs assistant getting her first wnba playoff win, 79-63. finally mets calling up prize prospect bret beatty. and on the first swing, the 22-year-old cranking the two run homer, a crucial nl east
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showdown against the braves. his whole family flew in from texas to see it, dad ended up crying at some point. mets are winning 9-7, he was supposed to make his debut tuesday, but missed his flight. yesterday he caught a flight and a memory to last a lifetime. >> i always think how much time those parents spent watching their kid play ball. what a great moment, all of that paid off. wow, thanks for joining us. i'm christine romans. "new day" starts right now. good morning to viewers here in the u.s. and around the world, it's thursday, august 18th and i'm brianna keilar with john berman this morning. three hours, that is how long donald trump and his team have to respond to requests to unseal the affidavit that led to the fbi's search of mar-a-lago. a judge is expected to hear th

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